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📝 WalkthroughWalkthroughThe evaluation guidance replaces the fixed ChangesEvaluation token-budget guidance
Priority: ⬇️ Low Estimated code review effort: 2 (Simple) | ~10 minutes Change: Other Suggested reviewers: Merge Risk: 🟡 Moderate · up to Evaluation configurations may use unsupported or ineffective token limits, compromising reproducibility and result interpretation. Resolve these documentation inconsistencies before merging. 🚥 Pre-merge checks | ✅ 6✅ Passed checks (6 passed)
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Signed-off-by: Chad Voegele <cvoegele@nvidia.com>
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Chad's Agent: I checked the Harbor trajectories to trace where The BF16 model card explicitly links its evaluation section to NVIDIA's model-specific NEL configs and reproducibility tutorial. In trial 1, the agent read that link, listed the directory through GitHub's API, then fetched All five trials fetched the published config and wrote that value into |
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In `@plugins/modelopt/skills/evaluation/recipes/examples/example_eval.yaml`:
- Line 135: Update the max_new_tokens entry in the example evaluation
configuration to include placeholders documenting the model-card source and the
evaluation rationale required by SKILL.md, while preserving the existing
token-budget resolution and MLflow export references.
In `@plugins/modelopt/skills/evaluation/references/nvfp4-modelcard-sampling.md`:
- Around line 18-20: Restrict the family-fallback rules in the lookup table to
the sampling fields temperature and top_p. Do not resolve missing output-budget
fields such as max_new_tokens or max_num_tokens through same-family rows; leave
them unresolved until SKILL.md Step 3, the exact model card, or the applicable
evaluation provides the value.
In `@plugins/modelopt/skills/evaluation/SKILL.md`:
- Around line 331-333: Update both validation sections to evaluate the effective
outgoing payload after the payload_modifier interceptor, not only the configured
max_new_tokens value. Require at least one preserved output-cap field for capped
runs; when both max_tokens and max_completion_tokens are removed, require
explicit rationale and classify the run as intentionally unbounded, matching the
documented MRCR exception where max_new_tokens is null.
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| max_new_tokens: 65536 # 64K for reasoning models; use 16384 (16K) for non-reasoning; prefer model card value | ||
| max_new_tokens: ??? # Resolve per SKILL.md's token-budget rule; match the export description/tag below |
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🗄️ Data Integrity & Integration | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win
Preserve token-budget provenance in the example.
SKILL.md requires a source and rationale comment when resolving max_new_tokens. This template only says to resolve the value and copy it to MLflow. Add placeholders for the model-card source and the applicable evaluation rationale.
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In `@plugins/modelopt/skills/evaluation/recipes/examples/example_eval.yaml` at
line 135, Update the max_new_tokens entry in the example evaluation
configuration to include placeholders documenting the model-card source and the
evaluation rationale required by SKILL.md, while preserving the existing
token-budget resolution and MLflow export references.
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Chad's Agent — suggestion for review (not applied): Reasonable small improvement, though the existing Step 3 reference already requires provenance. I suggest extending this comment with cite the creator/evaluation source and rationale when filling in the value, rather than adding more placeholder fields. That also covers sources linked from the model card, such as the published NEL recipe used in all five trials.
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@chadvoegele, agreed. A concise instruction is sufficient and keeps the template focused.
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max_new_tokens: ??? # Resolve per SKILL.md's token-budget rule; cite the creator/evaluation source and rationale when filling in the value; match the export description/tag belowThis supports model-card-linked sources, including published NEL recipes, without adding extra placeholder fields.
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| **The lookup and family priors below govern `temperature` / `top_p`, not output | ||
| budgets.** For `max_new_tokens`, follow SKILL.md Step 3's token-budget rule; | ||
| verify table values against the card and the applicable evaluation. |
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🎯 Functional Correctness | 🟠 Major | ⚡ Quick win
Restrict family fallbacks to sampling fields.
The heading limits this reference to temperature and top_p, but the per-field rules still resolve any unpublished field through the nearest same-family row. That can reintroduce a sibling max_num_tokens fallback, contrary to plugins/modelopt/skills/evaluation/SKILL.md. Scope those rules to sampling columns and leave missing output budgets unresolved until the exact model card or applicable evaluation provides them.
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In `@plugins/modelopt/skills/evaluation/references/nvfp4-modelcard-sampling.md`
around lines 18 - 20, Restrict the family-fallback rules in the lookup table to
the sampling fields temperature and top_p. Do not resolve missing output-budget
fields such as max_new_tokens or max_num_tokens through same-family rows; leave
them unresolved until SKILL.md Step 3, the exact model card, or the applicable
evaluation provides the value.
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Chad's Agent — suggestion for review (not applied): The new heading already explicitly excludes output budgets from family fallbacks, so I see this as a clarity improvement rather than a missing policy. Suggest changing Exact row, resolved per field to Sampling columns (temperature/top_p), resolved per field and No row to No sampling row. Keep output budgets governed solely by Step 3; no need to rewrite the table or broaden the PR.
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@chadvoegele, agreed. The new heading establishes the output-budget policy. The proposed label changes make the operational fallback steps consistent with that policy.
Please scope items 1 and 2 to sampling columns:
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Exact row, resolved per fieldtoSampling columns (temperature/top_p), resolved per field. - Change
No rowtoNo sampling row.
This is a small clarity change. It prevents readers from applying the same-family fallback to max_num_tokens.
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Direction is right (card-disclosed budget, eval-specific override only), but the rewritten rule drops two things it needed to keep: a fallback when no output maximum is disclosed, and the concrete multi-turn/context fit constraint.
Needs action:
- Say what to do when a reasoning card discloses no output maximum —
SKILL.mdrule 2 forbids 65536, family values and the context window, and the old "surface the silence to the user" fallback is gone, so the agent has no resolution path. Mirror it inreferences/model-card-research.md. - Restore the concrete fit constraint in
SKILL.mdrule 4 (n_turns × max_new_tokens + prompt < max_model_len, SciCode HTTP 400 precedent); "verify the budget fits" loses the arithmetic. - Reconcile "use the disclosed maximum" (often 131072+) with the template's
--max-model-len 131072andanalyze-results.mditem 5 — say whether to raise max-model-len or lower the budget, not just "surface conflicts". - Quote the placeholder in
example_eval.yamltags (max_new_tokens: '???') to match the neighbouring quotedtemperature/top_ptags and the keep-the-quotes comment.
| 5. **Forbidden:** writing `max_new_tokens: <generic_default>` with a "card not yet checked" comment. Either fetch and apply, or fetch and confirm silence. | ||
| 6. **A higher cap doesn't fix runaway reasoning.** On hard tasks (e.g. HLE) a non-terminating model just rambles to the larger cap (~80% length-capped at 131072), and the cap only helps if deployment `--max-model-len > prompt + max_new_tokens` (else generation is silently clipped — AA-LCR's ~120K input leaves little room). Treat such tasks as low-confidence. | ||
| 1. **Read the HF model card before setting the value.** Identify the model's reasoning mode, creator-disclosed maximum output length, and any `max_tokens` / `max_new_tokens` used for the applicable evaluation. Cite the source and rationale in a config comment; quickstart examples are not evaluation budgets. | ||
| 2. **Non-reasoning:** use **16384**, lowered for smaller output caps or available context after input tokens. **Reasoning:** use the maximum output length allowed and disclosed by the model creators. Do not substitute 65536, a same-family budget, or the context-window size for an undisclosed output maximum. |
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Rule 2 rules out 65536, same-family budgets and the context window, but the old rule 4 fallback ("if the card is genuinely silent … surface the silence to the user") is gone. Many cards in references/nvfp4-modelcard-sampling.md have — in max_num_tokens, so "creator-disclosed maximum output length" is frequently unavailable. Please state the resolution path (ask the user / leave ??? and escalate) so the agent isn't left without a value.
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Chad's Agent — suggestion for review (not applied): There is a real unresolved case, but I would not restore ask-user/escalation language: its removal was explicitly requested for this PR. Suggest first following the exact model card's linked evaluation recipes/configs (the successful Nemotron trials found 131072 that way). If no authoritative budget is available, leave ??? unresolved and do not treat the config as launch-ready, rather than inventing a value. This makes the failure mode explicit without reintroducing a user prompt or a generic fallback.
| 1. **Read the HF model card before setting the value.** Identify the model's reasoning mode, creator-disclosed maximum output length, and any `max_tokens` / `max_new_tokens` used for the applicable evaluation. Cite the source and rationale in a config comment; quickstart examples are not evaluation budgets. | ||
| 2. **Non-reasoning:** use **16384**, lowered for smaller output caps or available context after input tokens. **Reasoning:** use the maximum output length allowed and disclosed by the model creators. Do not substitute 65536, a same-family budget, or the context-window size for an undisclosed output maximum. | ||
| 3. **An explicit model-card budget used for the applicable evaluation can override these defaults.** Do not apply another benchmark's budget or choose the highest number mentioned. Keep one top-level `max_new_tokens` (no per-task overrides); conflicting benchmark-specific budgets require separate configs. | ||
| 4. Verify that the output budget fits alongside the input, including accumulated multi-turn history. Surface conflicts rather than silently clipping a creator/evaluation budget. Check `finish_reason: length` after the run (`references/run-validation.md`); a higher cap does not fix runaway reasoning. |
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This replaces a concrete, hard-won constraint (n_turns × max_new_tokens + prompt < max_model_len, plus the SciCode HTTP 400 / AA-LCR ~120K examples) with "verify that the output budget fits". Worth keeping the formula and at least one example — with the new rule a reasoning model will often get max_new_tokens: 131072 against the template's --max-model-len 131072, which cannot fit any prompt, and "surface conflicts" doesn't say which side gives.
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Chad's Agent — suggestion for review (not applied): Agree that a concrete capacity check helps. I would use current input tokens (including retained history) + requested output tokens <= max_model_len, rather than restore n_turns × max_new_tokens + prompt: that is only a conservative worst case and ignores actual turn lengths, tool output, and truncation/compaction. A useful example is that a 131072 output budget cannot fit any nonempty prompt in a 131072 context. Prefer a larger supported serving context; if unavailable, mark the requested budget infeasible instead of silently shrinking it. No generic context override is needed.
| temperature: '1.0' | ||
| top_p: '0.95' | ||
| max_new_tokens: '65536' | ||
| max_new_tokens: ??? |
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Sibling tags are quoted strings ('1.0', '0.95') and the comment below stresses keeping quotes; use max_new_tokens: '???' so the filled-in value keeps the string form MLflow tags expect.
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Chad's Agent — suggestion for review (not applied): Agree: quote the export tag placeholder as max_new_tokens: '???' and retain quotes when replacing it, matching the neighboring MLflow tags. Keep the actual evaluation parameter numeric. Quoting is a type/style cue for the completed tag, not a way to make an unresolved OmegaConf placeholder valid.
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What does this PR do?
Type of change: documentation.
Fix
max_new_tokensguidance:Remove generic 64K reasoning and same-family token fallbacks, and the rule to pick the highest number anywhere in a card. Align the output-budget example and validation guidance. Other sampling and deployment settings are unchanged.
Usage
No API changes. Follow the evaluation skill's output-token rule when preparing configs.
Testing
git diff --checkpassed.28dc117594ee98c8875e8e0c9bb4496a4e259475, September 15) passed 0/1 scored Harbor unit trials. It generatedmax_new_tokens: 32768; the verifier required131072. No five-trial pre-PR baseline was found. Post-PR startup errors are excluded from behavioral pass rates; this historical comparison is not a controlled five-versus-five experiment.37fe654ff29b645f77a549d28d21196a640be428and ran exactly five fresh NEL-config Harbor unit trials against the unchanged task/verifier: 4/5 passed (80%), with zero infrastructure errors.max_new_tokens: 131072, temperature1.0, and top-p0.95. The failed trial substituted a hosted model ID for the exact requested BF16 model; verification failed withunexpected model ID set, not a token-budget error. No corrective reruns or model evaluation submissions.Before your PR is "Ready for review"
Additional Information
Fixes the output-token guidance issue documented in Nemotron 3 Super GPQA reasoning-token limit (internal analysis).
Prepared by Chad's Agent.